2028 EC POTY Award

**Buane** · 08-04-2012, 11:21 PM

Please vote

**jadacormier** · 08-04-2012, 11:45 PM

I am genuinely torn between a number of good candidates. So when in doubt, go with the homer vote.

**McExpos** · 08-05-2012, 01:32 AM

By the numbers, Greg Muldoon may have been the best of the bunch. But those 50 missing innings really hurt him, so Morrow gets my vote. I tend to pretty heavily weigh FIP, HR/9, and BB/9 in my rankings, so I'm less impressed by strikeouts and ERA than others.

**Tavarin** · 08-05-2012, 01:38 AM

Gotta go with Morrow here, but I'm a little biased.

**Jontler** · 08-05-2012, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by McExpos

By the numbers, Greg Muldoon may have been the best of the bunch. But those 50 missing innings really hurt him, so Morrow gets my vote. I tend to pretty heavily weigh FIP, HR/9, and BB/9 in my rankings, so I'm less impressed by strikeouts and ERA than others.

Albert Castillo would like to know why you completely ignored him.

**Buane** · 08-05-2012, 12:20 PM

Now, obviously this statistic has some flaws, but I'm surprised with all the weight that people put into OPS as the "go-to" stat for offensive players, that nobody really emphasizes a pitcher's Opponents' OPS when rating their season.

Opponents hit .213/.272/.311 against Castillo this year, compared to .222/.270/.305 against Morrow. They both easily led the RSL. I went with Castillo based purely on the tiebreaker of having done more to help himself, regarding his strikeouts versus Morrow's balls in play.

edit: fun fact, Miami's team line of .213/.285/.318 means they performed basically the same as a league-average offense that faced the equivalent of the best pitcher in the league this year for 162 consecutive games.

**tadashi** · 08-07-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Buane

Now, obviously this statistic has some flaws, but I'm surprised with all the weight that people put into OPS as the "go-to" stat for offensive players, that nobody really emphasizes a pitcher's Opponents' OPS when rating their season.

Opponents hit .213/.272/.311 against Castillo this year, compared to .222/.270/.305 against Morrow. They both easily led the RSL. I went with Castillo based purely on the tiebreaker of having done more to help himself, regarding his strikeouts versus Morrow's balls in play.

edit: fun fact, Miami's team line of .213/.285/.318 means they performed basically the same as a league-average offense that faced the equivalent of the best pitcher in the league this year for 162 consecutive games.

It came down to the fact that Morrow was so heavily dependant on balls in play and the fact that they Castillo had a great ERA and other numbers that were in Morrow's ballpark. They are so different, and I don't deny that what Morrow did was praise-worthy, but I lean on Castillo for pulling himself up by his boot-straps.