2028 WC ROTY Award

[Buane]

Please vote

[Tavarin]

RIP Juan Villa.

[tadashi]

But villa only played 113 games

[Buane]

But villa only played 113 games

There's an awesome double standard at work here and it is AWESOME

[Felix]

There's a reason I haven't voted. All of these candidates are pretty forgettable.

Let's just cancel the RotY for the WC. None of these guys really deserve it.

[tadashi]

But Gunner Park was 5th in runs scored in the WC....

[Buane]

There's a reason I haven't voted. All of these candidates are pretty forgettable.

Let's just cancel the RotY for the WC. None of these guys really deserve it.

This isn't even like the 5th worst ROTY vote. There have been some putrid ones before.

[Felix]

This isn't even like the 5th worst ROTY vote. There have been some putrid ones before.

Wendel Godron ftw!

(full disclosure: he was actually good that one year, but was pretty obviously a flash in the pan that was never going to last)

[Tecmo]

A shortstop playing average defense with a .360 plus OBP and 22 home runs is pretty damn deserving I think.

[jadacormier]

There's an awesome double standard at work here and it is AWESOME

An MVP (I know technically you call it 'Hitter of the Year' but I've always thought that title should be changed, it's MVP to me) is the most valuable player, ie. the one who contributed the most value. You can't miss 1/3 of the season and not have that severely impact the value of your contribution.

A ROY means the best ovearall rookie, ie. the one who quantifiably demonstrated the best potential for future success based on their performance. It's not the most valuable rookie, they can miss 1/3 of the season and not have that diminish thier status as the best overall rookie.

For me the standards are different, as they should... because I ignore the name of the HOY award and interpret it as MVP (and I think most of us do that.)

Of course, if I were to judge the MVP simply as 'hitter of the year' which I suppose is how you intended the award to be judged, than it should probably just be whoever has demonstrated the greatest hitting ability. Defense be damned. Which leads to a vote for Shawn Jones in the EC over Zuniga. Or the slightly more ridiculous position of awarding the EC HOY award to Hector Martinez was arguably the best hitter in the EC while he was in the lineup and missing half the season doesn't take anything away from his performance as hitter of the year.

TL;DR: Change the damned name of the award to MVP.

[Tavarin]

An MVP (I know technically you call it 'Hitter of the Year' but I've always thought that title should be changed, it's MVP to me) is the most valuable player, ie. the one who contributed the most value. You can't miss 1/3 of the season and not have that severely impact the value of your contribution.

A ROY means the best ovearall rookie, ie. the one who quantifiably demonstrated the best potential for future success based on their performance. It's not the most valuable rookie, they can miss 1/3 of the season and not have that diminish thier status as the best overall rookie.

For me the standards are different, as they should... because I ignore the name of the HOY award and interpret it as MVP I think most of us do.

Of course, if I were to judge the MVP simply as 'hitter of the year' which I suppose is how you intended the award to be judged, than it should probably just be whoever has demonstrated the greatest hitting ability. Defense be damned. Which leads to a vote for Shawn Jones in the EC over Zuniga. Or the slightly more ridiculous position of awarding the EC HOY award to Hector Martinez was arguably the best hitter in the EC while he was in the lineup.

TL;DR: Change the damned name of the award to MVP.

If HotY is renamed MVP, it opens it up for the inclusion of pitchers on the ballot though.

[jadacormier]

If HotY is renamed MVP, it opens it up for the inclusion of pitchers on the ballot though.

MVH. Most Valuable Hitter. Solved.

[Buane]

Award re-named to DH Of the Year

[aceman034]

Also to call villa's defense average is laughable...especially given his plus defense at two positions. Park did give him a good run, but villa did play pretty well and my team was better for it when healthy.

[Buane]

An MVP (I know technically you call it 'Hitter of the Year' but I've always thought that title should be changed, it's MVP to me) is the most valuable player, ie. the one who contributed the most value. You can't miss 1/3 of the season and not have that severely impact the value of your contribution.

A ROY means the best ovearall rookie, ie. the one who quantifiably demonstrated the best potential for future success based on their performance. It's not the most valuable rookie, they can miss 1/3 of the season and not have that diminish thier status as the best overall rookie.

For me the standards are different, as they should... because I ignore the name of the HOY award and interpret it as MVP (and I think most of us do that.)

Of course, if I were to judge the MVP simply as 'hitter of the year' which I suppose is how you intended the award to be judged, than it should probably just be whoever has demonstrated the greatest hitting ability. Defense be damned. Which leads to a vote for Shawn Jones in the EC over Zuniga. Or the slightly more ridiculous position of awarding the EC HOY award to Hector Martinez was arguably the best hitter in the EC while he was in the lineup and missing half the season doesn't take anything away from his performance as hitter of the year.

TL;DR: Change the damned name of the award to MVP.

Also I basically agree with all of this!

[Tecmo]

Also to call villa's defense average is laughable...especially given his plus defense at two positions. Park did give him a good run, but villa did play pretty well and my team was better for it when healthy.

Zone rating of 0 and the most errors by a shortstop in the WC. Maybe average was laughable...

[aceman034]

Yeah, stressful trying to make up for Stonelegs Sierra playing next to him! ha...

[Kane182]

Just wanted to point out, Domingo Moran lead both leagues in doubles and tied for the WC lead in triples. Was he ROTY? No, but that is a pretty helluva first season for a career minor leaguer.

[jadacormier]

Just wanted to point out, Domingo Moran lead both leagues in doubles and tied for the WC lead in triples. Was he ROTY? No, but that is a pretty helluva first season for a career minor leaguer.

I saw that, he was a close second for me... great story nonetheless.

[Jontler]

Just wanted to point out, Domingo Moran lead both leagues in doubles and tied for the WC lead in triples. Was he ROTY? No, but that is a pretty helluva first season for a career minor leaguer.

League members only please kthx

[Kane182]

League members only please kthx