SP Matt Porter - Atlanta Storm, San Francisco Reds
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SP Matt Porter - Atlanta Storm, San Francisco Reds
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Nick who?
I am coming out of posting retirement to say that I am going to drive to Boston and kick you in the dick, Steve.
The working class and the employing class have nothing in common. There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of the working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things of life.
Between these two classes a struggle must go on until the workers of the world organize as a class, take possession of the means of production, abolish the wage system, and live in harmony with the Earth.
It is the historic mission of the working class to do away with capitalism. The army of production must be organized, not only for everyday struggle with capitalists, but also to carry on production when capitalism shall have been overthrown. By organizing industrially we are forming the structure of the new society within the shell of the old.
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I have a really hard time understanding the baseline for HoF admittance in the RSL. It doesn't really seem fair to apply the same kind of milestones as I would in real life (3000 Ks, 300 wins, etc.), because the league hasn't been around as long. For example, Matt Porter is 30th all-time in career WHIP. The 31st guy on the list in real life (since #30 is Eddie Plank, and he was a deadball pitcher) is Johan Santana. Is Johan Santana a Hall of Famer? It seems to me that they're actually pretty similar pitchers, and my gut reaction would be no.
My gut reaction is that Porter is NOT a Hall of Famer. He was very good for several years, and then he was very good at the end of his career but couldn't stay healthy. That ERA is shiny, but it only places him at 32nd, and he was really more of a pitch-to-contact kind of guy. Avoided walks, avoided HRs. I dunno. NO.
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My vote was based on:Originally Posted by McExpos
1. 5 K:BB ratio for his career
2. Pitched over 200 innings 9 times (could have been 10 but was a reliever in his rookie year)
3. Achieved MVP level WAR 6 times as a pitcher (although I don't know how accurate WAR is)
4. Shiny ERA
It's really hard to establish benchmarks because you just have to sort of look at the numbers and see if it makes sense to you. It's really hard to look through league history and judge what they were doing in the context of the league at the time.
I think the idea of having a 500 HR, 3000 Hit, or 300 Win type benchmark is bad anyway because the HoF to me is about career value vs. peak value. I try to think in those terms.
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This doesn't even do him justice because he was over 220 IP seven straight seasons and threw 250+ a few times and 270+ once. Even with a season as a reliever and seasons with injuries, his yearly average for his career was 199+ innings.
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Unlike a lot of the earlier admissions, I 'saw' this one pitch for most of his career. And for most of that time I considered him one of the top pitchers in the league. If being one of the very best for most of your career isn't HOF worthy, I don't know what is.
Oh my god, I think I've become one of those guys who would vote for Jack Morris...
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[20:36:32] <Jontler> at one point in time, i owned every single backstreet boys, n'sync, and 98 degrees album
''It seems like they can't do anything wrong here,'' Buehrle said of the Twins, after admitting that the Sox do flinch a bit coming to the dome. ''[Manager Ozzie Guillen] calls them 'piranhas,' but I call them 's---heads.' I would tell you what I really call them, but I know you couldn't print it. They get on base, bunt, steal, bloop singles -- it's [bleep]ing annoying.''
Nick who?
The working class and the employing class have nothing in common. There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of the working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things of life.
Between these two classes a struggle must go on until the workers of the world organize as a class, take possession of the means of production, abolish the wage system, and live in harmony with the Earth.
It is the historic mission of the working class to do away with capitalism. The army of production must be organized, not only for everyday struggle with capitalists, but also to carry on production when capitalism shall have been overthrown. By organizing industrially we are forming the structure of the new society within the shell of the old.
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To lose Alex would be bad enough, but to lose Alex AND Josh in one night? I only hope the apology in my suicide note will give you some small amount of atonement for the awful thing that I've done. :P
(Seriously, though, Josh. You're not in the league anymore.)
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the vote that tore the league (and bystanders) apart
Nick who?
Aside from Twitter, I'm barely on the internet any more let alone the league.
The working class and the employing class have nothing in common. There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of the working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things of life.
Between these two classes a struggle must go on until the workers of the world organize as a class, take possession of the means of production, abolish the wage system, and live in harmony with the Earth.
It is the historic mission of the working class to do away with capitalism. The army of production must be organized, not only for everyday struggle with capitalists, but also to carry on production when capitalism shall have been overthrown. By organizing industrially we are forming the structure of the new society within the shell of the old.
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I bet that felt good to say.Aside from Twitter, I'm barely on the internet any more let alone the league.
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Championships - 2015, 2017, 2019, 2024, 2029
Playoffs - 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028, 2029
An Annotated History of the Second-Greatest Rivalry in RSL History (Behind Only Alex King vs. Himself)
Nick who?
More than you can imagine. Hope all is going well for you, Matt.
The working class and the employing class have nothing in common. There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of the working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things of life.
Between these two classes a struggle must go on until the workers of the world organize as a class, take possession of the means of production, abolish the wage system, and live in harmony with the Earth.
It is the historic mission of the working class to do away with capitalism. The army of production must be organized, not only for everyday struggle with capitalists, but also to carry on production when capitalism shall have been overthrown. By organizing industrially we are forming the structure of the new society within the shell of the old.
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